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Animal Face-Off
Topic Started: Feb 8 2016, 04:15 PM (1,571 Views)
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It sucks. It's one of the worst shows about animals ever, but let's hear your thoughts anyway.



The only good things in my opinion were the mechanical animals, those were cool.

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Why is one of the worst shows? I understand people don't like facing animals against each or view it as cruel, i enjoyed lion vs tiger and shark vs croc. I don't remember any animals were hurt.
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It's not remembered fondly because the science is pretty shoddy, the CGI was really bad, and the fight choreography wasn't very good.

That being said, I still love it, and it makes me sad that there aren't any DVDs of Season 2(except in Chinese). The robotic animals were also freakin' awesome. I find it interesting how despite the show being unpopular, it has three dubs. Yeah, first dub is the American one, but it's different than the one in the video Darker posted, they don't have narration in the fights. Second dub has talking in the fights. Third dub is a British voice over
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I liked the show, but I like a lot of the "VS" shows like Deadliest Warrior, so I'm biased in that aspect. I loved the fantasy what-ifs, like shark VS croc, and the animatronic animals were sexy.
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Feb 9 2016, 12:15 AM
Why is one of the worst shows? I understand people don't like facing animals against each or view it as cruel, i enjoyed lion vs tiger and shark vs croc. I don't remember any animals were hurt.


That's not really the reason as to why it's a really bad show.
I don't care if animals fight, that's nature. The animals that fight in the show are in crappy CGI, who cares?

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Feb 9 2016, 12:31 AM
It's not remembered fondly because the science is pretty shoddy, the CGI was really bad, and the fight choreography wasn't very good.


Aaand it was complete crap. Every episode. Every second. Every scientist(and I know some of them, they're really talented and experienced, but they gave them s***ty scripts). And speaking of scripts, the writing is ALSO horrible beyond imagination.

I understand why you like it, though. So bad, it's sorta good.

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Feb 9 2016, 12:31 AM
That being said, I still love it, and it makes me sad that there aren't any DVDs of Season 2(except in Chinese). The robotic animals were also freakin' awesome. I find it interesting how despite the show being unpopular, it has three dubs. Yeah, first dub is the American one, but it's different than the one in the video Darker posted, they don't have narration in the fights. Second dub has talking in the fights. Third dub is a British voice over


There were tons of dubs for several european countries too, all of them sucked though. As expected.
And yeah, mechanical beasts FTW.

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The saltie should've TOTALLY owned the great white, though, especially given how that fight went.
Same goes for the bengal tiger.
And the polar bear.
And many others, most likely


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Feb 9 2016, 12:49 AM
and the animatronic animals were sexy.


Not how I would describe them, but I'm already used to you saying stuff like that.
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Well, in terms of fights...

Episode 1: Salt***er Crocodile vs Great White Shark. I agree with the result, but the way the fight played out was awful. With the way the fight played out, the crocodile should have won. If they wanted to make the shark win(which would likely happen), why not make it use its greater speed?

Episode 2: Elephant vs Rhino. This happens in real life, and the elephant stomps. No problems here

Episode 3: Lion vs Tiger. Asiatic Lions don't win against Bengal Tigers, and moreover the choreography was atrocious here. I love the lion fumbling its charge and the lion somehow just having the force push

Episode 4: Hippo vs Bull Shark. No real problems, but this was even more unbalanced than elephant vs rhino.

Episode 5: Cougar vs Wolf. The cougar winning was fine, but the choreography was terrible, and the final blow was laughable. It's actually in my avatar. The fact that the cougar apparently has a judo kick that can one shot a wolf is absurd. The claws are sharp, but the wolf has enough energy to roll over, which makes it look like a blunt force injury.

Episode 6: Walrus vs Polar Bear. While the polar bear should win most of the time, the walrus won in a believable way

Episode 7: Brown Bear vs Siberian Tiger. The fight should be closer, but over all, the result isn't inaccurate

Episode 8: Crocodile vs Lion. No problems with it

Episode 9: Anaconda vs Jaguar. Total bulls***, the jaguar should have won and it getting tired so quickly was ridiculous

Episode 10: Gorilla vs Leopard. While the leopard should win the majority of the time, I will concede that a gorilla could win. What was stupid was the gorilla inexplicably being an expert of martial arts who could perfectly time his blows in order to smack the leopard out of mid-air. Another one stupid enough to be my sig

Episode 11: Black Bear vs Alligator. This is a fairly even match, but it played out like a stomp in the show. The bear shouldn't be able to flip the gator so easily.

Episode 12: Colossal Squid vs Sperm Whale. No problems, but this was a stomp match from the beginning. We know sperm whales eat the squid

On a brighter side, OMG, I FINALLY FOUND ALL OF THE EPISODES! I DON'T CARE IF IT'S REALLY BADLY DUBBED SPANISH, IT'S ENOUGH FOR ME TO SQUEE!
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Good for you, enjoy the awful dub.
Though I thought there was only Season 1 for the dub...
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw9tC4I8Qd8OyfQVh5k4bGy-bFCgQGtBu

Not all of them are dubbed, but 9 out of 12 ain't bad
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OH JESUS
Just as bad as I remember.

Though I didn't recall the show having such kickass music.
That's TWO things this show did right: The mechanical beasts and the music.
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It just made me miss it more :T_T:

I wanna see it and Deadliest Warrior back

Also, there is some rather shoddy explanation for the bad CGI. Apparently, a lot of the movements are copied from the tests. This leads to paw swipes and the like being very...stiff since it's the same motion as the mecha arm
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I'd rather have the mechanical beasts fighting each other, I'd so watch that. The crocodile and shark robots were by far the cooler ones. Especially the great white, they did a great job with the upper jaws and face.

I feel so bad for those animatronics, they're probably in the trash can right now since they're only used once and felt pretty worthless, even though they could've used them somewhere else. They could've given them to Michael Bay or something.

That's a pretty bad excuse for the CGI. Couldn't they just do research, and then animate stuff? The robots were cool, but definetely pointless.
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It was for fluff. Just discussing the lengths of muscles and jaws and looking at sketchy videos of animals fighting(some of which wouldn't exist for certain animals, like the gorilla) would make for a rather boring program. While some of their measurements with the bots were really off, some of them weren't actually too inaccurate in terms of force and what not.
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Yeah, I did think that some of the calcs done with the bots were quite accurate. The dub messes you up a bit, though.
"The croc has a bite force of +700 kg. That's nearly 2 tons."
What the?! No, seriously, WTF.
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It's quite interesting, because for all the weirdness, it's actually more scientific than those other shows that test bite force. Granted, still not particularly accurate(it doesn't take into account points of pressure at different teeth and the stress the jaw can handle without breaking), but hey, at least there's an attempt for it.

Imagine if the tests were done on pigs ala Deadliest Warrior style. That would be awesome
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It's not just the fact that it's weird, but also really hard to enjoy, very confusing, very corny and barely accurate.
Not to mention ridiculous. Minus the animatronics.
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